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> <channel><title>Comments on: Progress report on ISD Model Development, II</title> <atom:link href="http://www.apescience.com/id/blog/progress-report-on-isd-model-development-ii/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.apescience.com/id/blog/progress-report-on-isd-model-development-ii</link> <description>On Instructional Design</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:28:38 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Leigh M. Tolley</title><link>http://www.apescience.com/id/blog/progress-report-on-isd-model-development-ii#comment-355</link> <dc:creator>Leigh M. Tolley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.apescience.com/id/?p=416#comment-355</guid> <description>Hi Steve-I completely understand what you mean about not wanting this to be a huge undertaking, when at its core, ADDIE seems to be the basis of most, if not all, of the models we&#039;re reviewing.  Our understanding of it also colors what we pull out as important.I think the part that really stands out to me in your model is the interface, and that&#039;s a part I&#039;d like to know more about.  Like you, I&#039;m justifying why I chose what I did, but at this point can&#039;t afford the time to construct The Most Amazing ISD Model Ever.  I&#039;m satisfied with one that represents what I feel is a suitable process for my context, and it seems like you&#039;re thinking in a similar way.-Leigh</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve-</p><p>I completely understand what you mean about not wanting this to be a huge undertaking, when at its core, ADDIE seems to be the basis of most, if not all, of the models we&#8217;re reviewing.  Our understanding of it also colors what we pull out as important.</p><p>I think the part that really stands out to me in your model is the interface, and that&#8217;s a part I&#8217;d like to know more about.  Like you, I&#8217;m justifying why I chose what I did, but at this point can&#8217;t afford the time to construct The Most Amazing ISD Model Ever.  I&#8217;m satisfied with one that represents what I feel is a suitable process for my context, and it seems like you&#8217;re thinking in a similar way.</p><p>-Leigh</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: steve</title><link>http://www.apescience.com/id/blog/progress-report-on-isd-model-development-ii#comment-351</link> <dc:creator>steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:25:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.apescience.com/id/?p=416#comment-351</guid> <description>Leigh - Thank you for offering your line of questioning. It is very helpful. I am considering a couple strategies with respect to the final product: 1) There&#039;s no way I can produce a thoroughly documented ISD model in one semester. This is practically a PhD project unto its own. So I plan on establish in its validity and necessity first and foremost, and support it with documentation of the theories and philosophies that underlie its premise. 2) I will assume that the context of this model will subscribe to the core components of the ADDIE model, within a systems oriented design for the purpose of highlighting how the distance component affects everything else. In other words, I am not terribly concerned about the model so much as I am concerned about the effect of an intervening interface between teacher and student has on the entire process - no matter if you subscribe to Gerlach &amp; Ely or Dick &amp; Carey, or whatever (given that they are all based on similar fundamental tenets of ADDIE as a philosophy of instructional design).So this may end being a plugin plopped on top of a &quot;host&quot; model simply for demonstration purposes, to help to see it in a context of ISD of some sort. - thx - Steve</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leigh &#8211; Thank you for offering your line of questioning. It is very helpful. I am considering a couple strategies with respect to the final product: 1) There&#8217;s no way I can produce a thoroughly documented ISD model in one semester. This is practically a PhD project unto its own. So I plan on establish in its validity and necessity first and foremost, and support it with documentation of the theories and philosophies that underlie its premise. 2) I will assume that the context of this model will subscribe to the core components of the ADDIE model, within a systems oriented design for the purpose of highlighting how the distance component affects everything else. In other words, I am not terribly concerned about the model so much as I am concerned about the effect of an intervening interface between teacher and student has on the entire process &#8211; no matter if you subscribe to Gerlach &#038; Ely or Dick &#038; Carey, or whatever (given that they are all based on similar fundamental tenets of ADDIE as a philosophy of instructional design).</p><p>So this may end being a plugin plopped on top of a &#8220;host&#8221; model simply for demonstration purposes, to help to see it in a context of ISD of some sort. &#8211; thx &#8211; Steve</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Leigh M. Tolley</title><link>http://www.apescience.com/id/blog/progress-report-on-isd-model-development-ii#comment-348</link> <dc:creator>Leigh M. Tolley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 03:09:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.apescience.com/id/?p=416#comment-348</guid> <description>Hi Steve-I&#039;ve also struggled with depiction of my model and whether they are stand-alone components or parts of a larger model.  I wish that I could be more holistic, yet I want to detail each piece.  My current version has 5 pieces, each of which can be blown out in some way (or at least, one is blown out- I need to think of representations for the other bits).  Are there parts here that you can expand to illuminate further how this might vary from a typical ADDIE model?I like your comment that you would like for your model to be generalizable in terms of application.  What I&#039;m curious about is how flexible your model would be in terms of context (which I&#039;m guessing would still be under the aegis of distance learning).  Also, how iterative is your model?  At what point(s) does formative evaluation occur?  Is this model linear overall, or more cyclical?  It seems linear to be at this point with iterative components, but I&#039;m not sure where the iterations fit in through just reviewing your diagram and explanations above.  Would there be a general timeframe that could be associated with your components?  (Would you expect one part to take longer than others?  Is there/should there be more emphasis on any particular part?)  Those are just a few things I was thinking about when reviewing your model.As I mentioned to you in e-mail, the distance learning section on the 4th floor of Bird, IIRC, doesn&#039;t live too far away from the instructional design section.  Maybe those can help provide more ideas, even if overall they are dated (most recent I found from Bates, for example, was 2002, I think).-Leigh</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve-</p><p>I&#8217;ve also struggled with depiction of my model and whether they are stand-alone components or parts of a larger model.  I wish that I could be more holistic, yet I want to detail each piece.  My current version has 5 pieces, each of which can be blown out in some way (or at least, one is blown out- I need to think of representations for the other bits).  Are there parts here that you can expand to illuminate further how this might vary from a typical ADDIE model?</p><p>I like your comment that you would like for your model to be generalizable in terms of application.  What I&#8217;m curious about is how flexible your model would be in terms of context (which I&#8217;m guessing would still be under the aegis of distance learning).  Also, how iterative is your model?  At what point(s) does formative evaluation occur?  Is this model linear overall, or more cyclical?  It seems linear to be at this point with iterative components, but I&#8217;m not sure where the iterations fit in through just reviewing your diagram and explanations above.  Would there be a general timeframe that could be associated with your components?  (Would you expect one part to take longer than others?  Is there/should there be more emphasis on any particular part?)  Those are just a few things I was thinking about when reviewing your model.</p><p>As I mentioned to you in e-mail, the distance learning section on the 4th floor of Bird, IIRC, doesn&#8217;t live too far away from the instructional design section.  Maybe those can help provide more ideas, even if overall they are dated (most recent I found from Bates, for example, was 2002, I think).</p><p>-Leigh</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: steve</title><link>http://www.apescience.com/id/blog/progress-report-on-isd-model-development-ii#comment-344</link> <dc:creator>steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:30:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.apescience.com/id/?p=416#comment-344</guid> <description>Dr. Edmunds - I don&#039;t know, precisely, whether this model will be standalone or simply a component. I feel obliged to compose the model as a complete system, although I believe the ID professional who might refer to this model would recognize areas that are applicable to his or her work and use what they see fit, in whole or in part. In other words, I don&#039;t presuppose this model to be so systematic and prescriptive to the extent that its most valuable components would be ineffective if extracted in part and used within some other model like some sort of &quot;plugin&quot;, though I may retract that later.In light of the most recent modules concerning the core distinguishing characteristics of ISD models (Andrews &amp; Goodson, 1980; Edmunds, G., Branch, R. &amp; Mukherjee, P, 1994), I feel that I must build a complete model, simply to explicate the relationships between the various stages of analysis, design and development once the remote interface component has been introduced.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Edmunds &#8211; I don&#8217;t know, precisely, whether this model will be standalone or simply a component. I feel obliged to compose the model as a complete system, although I believe the ID professional who might refer to this model would recognize areas that are applicable to his or her work and use what they see fit, in whole or in part. In other words, I don&#8217;t presuppose this model to be so systematic and prescriptive to the extent that its most valuable components would be ineffective if extracted in part and used within some other model like some sort of &#8220;plugin&#8221;, though I may retract that later.</p><p>In light of the most recent modules concerning the core distinguishing characteristics of ISD models (Andrews &#038; Goodson, 1980; Edmunds, G., Branch, R. &#038; Mukherjee, P, 1994), I feel that I must build a complete model, simply to explicate the relationships between the various stages of analysis, design and development once the remote interface component has been introduced.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jerry</title><link>http://www.apescience.com/id/blog/progress-report-on-isd-model-development-ii#comment-340</link> <dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:59:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.apescience.com/id/?p=416#comment-340</guid> <description>Do you see your model as a stand alone model or as a component of a larger model (e.g. focus on the instructional strategy component)?Jerry</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you see your model as a stand alone model or as a component of a larger model (e.g. focus on the instructional strategy component)?</p><p>Jerry</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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